Friday, January 15, 2010

Fun with numbers - an economics dispute

This letter was posted on the Inky's letters page:

That was some plan


So, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin believed her selection as Sen. John McCain's running mate was "God's plan" (as revealed by a McCain political strategist). Perhaps it was the plan to illustrate her simple intellect, the inability to grasp the root causes of international conflicts, or offer workable solutions to domestic problems that allowed for a crushing presidential defeat.

All of the cute winks, "gotchas," and other homespun homilies added up to a failed plan, be it God's or the McCain campaign's.

Gene Muccolini
Eastampton Twp.
gnmucc@aol.com
In response to which:

Thoughtful&concernedvoter


Wow. Gene Muccolini probably thinks BHO is more qualified to be President than Sarah Palin was to be Vice-President. What arrogance. Perhaps Muccolini has been asleep for the past year. Obama makes idiotic utternaces, bows before foreign leaders, engages in so-called "smart diplomacy" that has yielded nothing, not made the US any stronger or more secure from terrorism, and has engaged in a domestic policy agenda that has tripled the deficit and crushed job-creation prospects. What a wasted LTE, Gino.


[Yeah, I love the title this guy gives himself. Gee, full of ourselves much?!?!]

Fro 75


Hey Gene, why don't you challenge Mrs. Palin to a debate? I am sure with your highly superior intellect you would clean her clock. I feel much more secure knowing that you and the president have such a firm grasp on complex situatiuons and workable solutions. What a numbskull...


A fellow progressive and then I responded to their response thusly:

Lori T.


Fro 75 - no one has to debate Palin, she was cut to shreds already by Katie Couric. Even the people in charge of "advising" her have come forward to talk about what an idiot she is...and she bailed on her Governorship, so that shows how dedicated she is as well. You have the right to disagree with others but calling others names is a low-brow way to get your point across. There is no doubt in my mind that Clarence Thomas was and is a total womanizer - my opinion. Do you think education level or what school you attend has anything to do with being a morally bereft person? If you equate those two, then no person who went to a GOOD school would ever break the law or cheat on their spouse. I don't need a doctorate to be a decent, moral person.


rich2506


TCV and Fro 75 might wish to watch the video of Glenn Beck's interview of Sarah Palin. Dude, even BECK thought her answer to his "What's your favorite Founding Father?" was hopelessly sophomoric. Sorry, but Palin's opinion as to economics, that tax cuts are the magical answer to all problems, puts her in my estimation as a complete lightweight, hopelessly unsuited to ever be anything more than a Fox News personality.


[This can be seen here]

Well, the right-wingers didn't take too kindly to my comment on Palin's economic knowledge:

RonaReagan


Hey rich2506 seems like you're questiong the effectiveness of tax cuts while calling Palin a lightweight. Maybe you should research the impact of the 2003 tax cuts on government revenues. Hint: revenues increased significantly. Hard to believe, but it looks like Sarah knows something you don't.


Thoughtful&concernedvoter


Rich - if you want to debate the impact of tax cuts read what Christina Romer (one of BHO's key economists) wrote on the subject before she joined the Administration. She wrote that they had a higher multiplier effect than gov't spending.


I made a response much earlier, but it didn't post. This later one posted fine:

rich2506


Christina Romers paper is interesting, but she's speaking of tax cuts minus any counter-cyclical effect, i.e., it's irrelevant to our discussion here as countering the cycle is what Obama's economic policies have been all about. Forbes http://bit.ly/6OJ7V4 points out that the effect of different policies is $0.99 for every dollar of tax cuts versus $1.57 for every dollar of spending, meaning the economy loses a penny for every dollar in tax cuts and gains 57 cents for every dollar in spending. Not only did Bush's tax cuts not pay for themselves, they cost America $2.11 trillion in lost tax revenue http://bit.ly/qll37. Paul Krugman tracked Bush's tax cuts and the unemployment numbers http://bit.ly/8koXm5. Guess what? Yup, there was absolutely no correlation. The tax cuts did zip to help the economy.

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